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Dusty Masterson's avatar

Thanks for this great analysis.

Have cross posted.

https://dustymasterson.substack.com/p/no-wonder-you-love-boating-mr-allnut

Dusty

Andrew M's avatar

Can we know the identity of members of the so called Law Commission? So many faceless unaccountable groups in NZ with unhelpful influence.

Yvonne van Dongen's avatar

Thanks for such a lucid commentary on this confusing report. IMO it was Judith Butler level incoherent but you’ve managed to tease out the salient info. That is some achievement given its content. Now what? Rely on Winston to fight it?

Resist Gender Education's avatar

Lobby Winston and all the current ministers not to implement the recommendations.

Catherine Mann's avatar

Hideously embarrassing for NZ . Maybe it will be a good thing if China marches in and takes us over !

Alan Dickie's avatar

The major issue underlying these decisions is the extent to which all of our major institutions succumb to gender ideology: medicine, law, counselling, education and police The positioning of activists in decision making positions makes it very difficult for other points of view to be heard and appreciated. No MSM seems prepared to publish counter arguments.

The more the human rights angle is enshrined in law, the less value is given to harm, child safeguarding consent issues.

Garwhoungle's avatar

Nice one, Fern. It's a shame that our legacy women's organisations, our HRC commissioner for women's rights and the Ministry of Women's Affairs aren't doing their job of speaking up for the rights of females. I am very glad that you are doing it.

Katrina Biggs's avatar

I swear this review has been written by the kids at DEI camp.

TSlurLoser's avatar

But they did respond to you? Did you not see what they wrote after your bit?

Personal information about sex assigned at birth

12.23 Some submitters were worried that schools would be prevented from collecting or sharing information about staff or students’ sex assigned at birth if the Human Rights Act was amended. For example, Resist Gender Education said: “It is not possible to properly protect children and run a school safely if the sex of all the children and the staff is not known. This is a basic safeguarding principle.” It also said teachers need to know “the actual sex” of children under their care so they can safely provide medical assistance, plan for residential camps and offer sex-specific advice. It considered that a student’s “biological sex” must be declared to the school when enrolling.

12.24 Educational establishments are already subject to extensive requirements about the collection, use and disclosure of personal information.15 Although the reform we propose of section 21 of the Human Rights Act will clarify the availability of an additional complaints mechanism, we doubt this will create new obligations for schools about the handling of personal information. We think it is unlikely that collection, use or disclosure of information in compliance with the Privacy Act would be held to be a detriment and therefore a breach of section 57.

Resist Gender Education's avatar

They didn’t address the substantial point - that not knowing the real sex of a child is a safeguarding issue - and instead commented on privacy laws, which was not the point we were making.

Lucy Leader's avatar

If NZ is trying to out trans Canada and Australia, it can quit now. NZ has won.

If this is passed as is, it is indeed "open season" on girls and women. Kiwi females will have no right to safety at all, as long as some male decides his wee feelings are more important.

Jenny Ruth's Just the Business's avatar

Can you imagine the temptation to a teenaged boy to declare himself female (our gender self-ID law that came into force in June 2023 requires nothing more than a statutory declaration for such a boy to legally change his sex. No pubery blockers, cross sex hormones or mutilation of genitals is required. He doesn’t even have to dress as a girl. That declaration is all he needs.)

Do he declares and he gets to purve on girls changing into swimming and other sports clothing. Girls get no privacy from him when they’re coping with periods.

If you know anything about teenaged boys, you know this will happen. It won’t be that boy’s fault - he will be doing what criminally irresponsible adults have allowed him to do.

“Law Commission”? Outlaw Commission

Lucy Leader's avatar

When your daughter comes home from an overnight school camp having been impregnated by a trans "girl" sharing her overnight accommodation, who pressured her into sex because she wanted to "be kind" to him, how is this OK with anyone?

Jenny Ruth's Just the Business's avatar

Agreed. It takes little imagination to think of ways this is so unsafe for women and girls.

I struggle to understand the mindset that prevents people such as those on the Law Commission who cannot see this.

Resist Gender Education's avatar

IMO, it’s an overdose of empathy caused by years of indoctrination and no debate.

Lucy Leader's avatar

Funny how all that empathy is being directed mainly at the sex that is already the most privileged sex (of the only two there are).

Till Sex Do Us Part's avatar

Not empathy for females, though.

Stuart Bryce's avatar

I don’t know why biology is being overridden by this gross stupidity. There isn’t a single cell in a person’s body that can change its sex. The law is so far out of step with this rubbish and the people strong enough to fight it, such as Kirralie Smith, are being destroyed. If the legal system can’t defend the obvious we are doomed.

Jenny Ruth's Just the Business's avatar

We have to fight. There is no acceptable alternative

Gerda Ho's avatar

Wow! What a slap in the face of mainly girls and women!

Patrick Forbes's avatar

Absolutely, mindless and ridiculous nonsense! The Law Commission are idiots!

Jenny Ruth's Just the Business's avatar

I think they’re criminal. Don’t they say ignorance is no excuse?