This story is heartbreaking, the thought of losing my only child in this way is too much to imagine. Thank you to Vanessa’s parents for so eloquently stating what the majority of people believe. It’s just the media will gaslight the public into thinking differently. Huge respect to Ruth Hill for standing up to the insanity of these activists who have zero compassion, their fake empathy is appalling. Why do they think they have more rights to kids lives than their own parents? They are using Vanessa like a pawn in their game. Absolute vultures.
This story needs to be told, the public need to know our state is letting us down, another set of govt apologies in 20 years time in the making! They never learn.
I got the Farrier email in my inbox. Started reading it cos he can be ok. Felt sick to my stomach as I realised I was reading the dead young person’s messages. Deleted. I felt like I was reading someone’s diary and I had no right to that. The lowest form of gutter journalism. Poor family.
What a heartbreaking story. Your agony is not something anyone can understand unless they’ve been there. As someone who’s worked in an eating disorder clinic, I find this story shocking. No minor should die of starvation while under state care, but I’ve been expecting something like this to happen for a long time, given the perversion of the helping professions and the mandatory “affirmation” of delusions about gender. Sadly there will undoubtedly be more kids whose real problems are ignored in favour of pandering to fashionable insanities promulgated by men in dresses seeking to justify their behaviour choices, and the imbecile clinicians who capitulate to them.
The parents were excellent parents. I hope the parents fight. I hope they expose this total failure of the state and the cultish philosophy behind it. I know that’s a big ask that I don’t have the right to ask. I can’t imagine how they feel. Like having your heart ripped out by people you trusted, like you’re empty and have no courage left to give. Which would be fair enough.
That said, there’s a Welsh saying: “In a fight, anger is as good as courage.”
That so-called journalists should endeavour to promote themselves by spuriously commenting on a family tragedy is perfidy in action.
Loving parents do not say "yes" to everything their children say they want because the essence of parenting is safeguarding children until they mature sufficiently to make decisions that won't be harmful to them. Clearly these moronic men don't realise this. I feel sorry for their children, if they have any; to be left to the world so unprotected is a dereliction of parental duty.
The example of anorexia is often used in the argument about how children "know" they are trans. Clearly a skeletal presenting girl is not fat, even if she believes she is. That Farrier and Thistoll seem to think that Vanessa's parents should have been complicit in her delusional and confused thinking is monstrous because parents who starve their children are prosecuted not lauded. That agencies tasked with supporting children were so cavalier in their "care" for her (who takes teens at their word, FFS?) is an indictment on the entire enterprise.
People in the throes of mental illness do not "know" themselves better than those around them. There is no such thing as a "trans kid"; they have all been indoctrinated by adults with an agenda.
Finally, following the lead of Farrier and Thistoll, I guess my friend who killed herself under the influence of puerperal psychosis should have been allowed to do this at her first attempt. After all she "knew" that a demon was going to kill her children if she didn't kill herself first. What right did her loving husband, family and health care team have to prevent her from carrying this out? She KNEW she was doing the right thing! Except she didn't actually know anything because her mental state was so out of whack. Just like Vanessa's.
Steadfastly loving your child, like V's parents have done, is the hardest role a parent can be called to, especially in the face of such cruelty from the institutions of state 'care.' I salute their courage and am humbled by their loving strength.
These poor parents, what they have endured to try and save their daughter from a terrible mental illness. These awful men have no respect and no idea what it is like to try and get your teenager to eat food. These men just want to make a buck from their misery whilst rummaging around trying to find muck on the parents to sell a story. Vanessa’s parents should try and get an order to suppress any wrong information going to print. I do hope Vanessa’s parents get to see the people on Substack that support them. I can only imagine their pain and I can’t imagine the hell they have been through. Dealing with teenage angst is a minefield and I’m sure they spent years walking around on eggs shells with their daughter’s illness. These men have no rights to talk about their daughter and should be banned for doing so !!
and the mistake that we have all made for decades is trusting and believing that these men, among so many, are actual journalists. A real journalist that does their job properly is investigative, objective, interviews all parties and writes with integrity. This has never been present in mainstream media. These 'reporters' are merely there to continue to perpetuate the propaganda of the state, of agendas and they have no innate integrity. So on many levels, it is of no surprise that they have written and will continue to write what they do.
Considering the parlous state of affairs around all the trans crap reporting here, I struggle to find any journalists worthy of the title. Good on Ruth Hill for going against the tide and doing the actual work needed to tell this story.
Brilliantly written, impeccably argued, highly convincing. Tragic in the extreme.
SHAME on those two reporters, on the neglectful and incompetent authorities who were responsible for this youngster‘s care, and on the “community” that failed to give the support that was needed.
You’re absolutely brave to share your story. I am very sad for your loss, and hope your courage in sharing expose the malpractice in this area of care.
This: "In the last nine months of her life, our daughter’s trans-identity/fixation was affirmed by EVERYONE around her : school teachers, social workers, counsellors, MSD, Presbyterian Support, Salvation Army, housing providers, NZ Police, doctors - EVERYONE." The capitals say it all. What a tragic indictment on our public health workers, teachers, counsellors, media, justice providers etc this is, while the only responsible adults in the room, the clearly loving and compassionate parents, were villified as bad parents by a couple of low-brow jounalists. It's outrageously wrong that they can twist the knife in their wound of desparate grief for profit, and evidence of the extensive cross-agency conspiracy in play across the West to 'affirm' this CATASTROPHIC LIE that teenagers can and should change sex, a lie that if medicated will likely ruin their health and happiness, even kill some of them, as happened here. And she is not the first, nor will she be the last trans teen death. Unless this girl's death finally wakes people up to the corruption and devestation of 'trans healthcare' for teens and young people. This father's response was a profoundly dignified plea to a shamefully undignified NZ state that failed his bright but troubled daughter so desperately, including keeping her apart from her loving parents who did everything in their power to help her heal and save her life, and so they were failed by the state in an appallingly way too. The Trans lobby did that and MUST be blamed openly and the country MUST be woken up to the dark truths of Trans ideology, not least for our children's sake. Trans took my daughter away too.
This is magnificent, what an eloquent roar of pain from these parents, my heart burns for them. What a contrast Thistoll and Farrier are, two smug posturing nitwits, utterly unserious men drunk on their own self-importance.
I am a sex change transsexual female and I am disgusted by what has happened to your daughter.
She was failed badly by the system and worst of all the system also helped, if not prompted, the isolation from you.
I also have spoken out at the weaponising, from both pro-trans and anti-trans sides. This was never about gender but autism and an eating disorder. Totally disgusted in Farrier and co, and those who are using it to further their cause.
I feel greatly for you as parents as it is 20years since my own children have had anything to do with me. Fortunately, mine are still alive and each day I can have a glimmer of hope.
However you have made this public and while I hope it will achieve some good, it was inevitable that some on both sides would use it to further their cause.
Take the time for you both as well, dont let the squabbling harm you.
They misdirect and ignore the truth because they know it damns them. I'm so sorry they stole your daughter only to let her die.
This story is heartbreaking, the thought of losing my only child in this way is too much to imagine. Thank you to Vanessa’s parents for so eloquently stating what the majority of people believe. It’s just the media will gaslight the public into thinking differently. Huge respect to Ruth Hill for standing up to the insanity of these activists who have zero compassion, their fake empathy is appalling. Why do they think they have more rights to kids lives than their own parents? They are using Vanessa like a pawn in their game. Absolute vultures.
This story needs to be told, the public need to know our state is letting us down, another set of govt apologies in 20 years time in the making! They never learn.
I got the Farrier email in my inbox. Started reading it cos he can be ok. Felt sick to my stomach as I realised I was reading the dead young person’s messages. Deleted. I felt like I was reading someone’s diary and I had no right to that. The lowest form of gutter journalism. Poor family.
What a heartbreaking story. Your agony is not something anyone can understand unless they’ve been there. As someone who’s worked in an eating disorder clinic, I find this story shocking. No minor should die of starvation while under state care, but I’ve been expecting something like this to happen for a long time, given the perversion of the helping professions and the mandatory “affirmation” of delusions about gender. Sadly there will undoubtedly be more kids whose real problems are ignored in favour of pandering to fashionable insanities promulgated by men in dresses seeking to justify their behaviour choices, and the imbecile clinicians who capitulate to them.
The parents were excellent parents. I hope the parents fight. I hope they expose this total failure of the state and the cultish philosophy behind it. I know that’s a big ask that I don’t have the right to ask. I can’t imagine how they feel. Like having your heart ripped out by people you trusted, like you’re empty and have no courage left to give. Which would be fair enough.
That said, there’s a Welsh saying: “In a fight, anger is as good as courage.”
I hope they fight. I hope they get angry.
That so-called journalists should endeavour to promote themselves by spuriously commenting on a family tragedy is perfidy in action.
Loving parents do not say "yes" to everything their children say they want because the essence of parenting is safeguarding children until they mature sufficiently to make decisions that won't be harmful to them. Clearly these moronic men don't realise this. I feel sorry for their children, if they have any; to be left to the world so unprotected is a dereliction of parental duty.
The example of anorexia is often used in the argument about how children "know" they are trans. Clearly a skeletal presenting girl is not fat, even if she believes she is. That Farrier and Thistoll seem to think that Vanessa's parents should have been complicit in her delusional and confused thinking is monstrous because parents who starve their children are prosecuted not lauded. That agencies tasked with supporting children were so cavalier in their "care" for her (who takes teens at their word, FFS?) is an indictment on the entire enterprise.
People in the throes of mental illness do not "know" themselves better than those around them. There is no such thing as a "trans kid"; they have all been indoctrinated by adults with an agenda.
Finally, following the lead of Farrier and Thistoll, I guess my friend who killed herself under the influence of puerperal psychosis should have been allowed to do this at her first attempt. After all she "knew" that a demon was going to kill her children if she didn't kill herself first. What right did her loving husband, family and health care team have to prevent her from carrying this out? She KNEW she was doing the right thing! Except she didn't actually know anything because her mental state was so out of whack. Just like Vanessa's.
Steadfastly loving your child, like V's parents have done, is the hardest role a parent can be called to, especially in the face of such cruelty from the institutions of state 'care.' I salute their courage and am humbled by their loving strength.
These poor parents, what they have endured to try and save their daughter from a terrible mental illness. These awful men have no respect and no idea what it is like to try and get your teenager to eat food. These men just want to make a buck from their misery whilst rummaging around trying to find muck on the parents to sell a story. Vanessa’s parents should try and get an order to suppress any wrong information going to print. I do hope Vanessa’s parents get to see the people on Substack that support them. I can only imagine their pain and I can’t imagine the hell they have been through. Dealing with teenage angst is a minefield and I’m sure they spent years walking around on eggs shells with their daughter’s illness. These men have no rights to talk about their daughter and should be banned for doing so !!
Thank you to the parents for telling their story so bravely and clearly.
Shame on those two 'reporters' one of whom is, I understand, particularly notorious.
Have cross posted.
https://dustymasterson.substack.com/p/the-setting-up-of-a-priestly-caste
Dusty
and the mistake that we have all made for decades is trusting and believing that these men, among so many, are actual journalists. A real journalist that does their job properly is investigative, objective, interviews all parties and writes with integrity. This has never been present in mainstream media. These 'reporters' are merely there to continue to perpetuate the propaganda of the state, of agendas and they have no innate integrity. So on many levels, it is of no surprise that they have written and will continue to write what they do.
Considering the parlous state of affairs around all the trans crap reporting here, I struggle to find any journalists worthy of the title. Good on Ruth Hill for going against the tide and doing the actual work needed to tell this story.
Exactly, Aileen, that is why I put inverted commas in😊
Yes! I knew you knew....i just needed to elaborate on their fake roles and what they're there to do....mess with peoples' lives.
Thanks for elaborating, Aileen , very useful 👍
Not gonna lie, I do not trust the parents account of the trans identity of their child.
And the psychological toll of familial rejection is huge.
At this time, that would be an opinion best kept to yourself.
Brilliantly written, impeccably argued, highly convincing. Tragic in the extreme.
SHAME on those two reporters, on the neglectful and incompetent authorities who were responsible for this youngster‘s care, and on the “community” that failed to give the support that was needed.
You’re absolutely brave to share your story. I am very sad for your loss, and hope your courage in sharing expose the malpractice in this area of care.
This: "In the last nine months of her life, our daughter’s trans-identity/fixation was affirmed by EVERYONE around her : school teachers, social workers, counsellors, MSD, Presbyterian Support, Salvation Army, housing providers, NZ Police, doctors - EVERYONE." The capitals say it all. What a tragic indictment on our public health workers, teachers, counsellors, media, justice providers etc this is, while the only responsible adults in the room, the clearly loving and compassionate parents, were villified as bad parents by a couple of low-brow jounalists. It's outrageously wrong that they can twist the knife in their wound of desparate grief for profit, and evidence of the extensive cross-agency conspiracy in play across the West to 'affirm' this CATASTROPHIC LIE that teenagers can and should change sex, a lie that if medicated will likely ruin their health and happiness, even kill some of them, as happened here. And she is not the first, nor will she be the last trans teen death. Unless this girl's death finally wakes people up to the corruption and devestation of 'trans healthcare' for teens and young people. This father's response was a profoundly dignified plea to a shamefully undignified NZ state that failed his bright but troubled daughter so desperately, including keeping her apart from her loving parents who did everything in their power to help her heal and save her life, and so they were failed by the state in an appallingly way too. The Trans lobby did that and MUST be blamed openly and the country MUST be woken up to the dark truths of Trans ideology, not least for our children's sake. Trans took my daughter away too.
This is magnificent, what an eloquent roar of pain from these parents, my heart burns for them. What a contrast Thistoll and Farrier are, two smug posturing nitwits, utterly unserious men drunk on their own self-importance.
I am a sex change transsexual female and I am disgusted by what has happened to your daughter.
She was failed badly by the system and worst of all the system also helped, if not prompted, the isolation from you.
I also have spoken out at the weaponising, from both pro-trans and anti-trans sides. This was never about gender but autism and an eating disorder. Totally disgusted in Farrier and co, and those who are using it to further their cause.
I feel greatly for you as parents as it is 20years since my own children have had anything to do with me. Fortunately, mine are still alive and each day I can have a glimmer of hope.
However you have made this public and while I hope it will achieve some good, it was inevitable that some on both sides would use it to further their cause.
Take the time for you both as well, dont let the squabbling harm you.
Racheal McGonigal
A deeply tragic, though sadly unsurprising story. I wish her parents well.